15th January 2016
LeBron James has moved his career VORP total to 104.46 and now narrowly leads Michael Jordan's 104.44 for most in NBA history. It should be noted that VORP can only be calculated since 1973-74, so Wilt Chamberlain's career is not included (nor are the first four seasons of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's career). VORP was created by Daniel Myers, in conjunction with Box Plus/Minus. Descriptions of the statistics and how they are calculated can be found here.
A comparison of some of their career regular-season advanced statistics can be seen below:
Player |
G |
MP |
TS% |
TRB% |
AST% |
STL% |
BLK% |
TOV% |
USG% |
OBPM |
DBPM |
BPM |
VORP |
LeBron James |
947 |
37062 |
.581 |
10.8 |
34.4 |
2.3 |
1.6 |
12.5 |
31.7 |
7.3 |
1.9 |
9.2 |
104.5 |
Michael Jordan* |
1072 |
41011 |
.569 |
9.4 |
24.9 |
3.1 |
1.4 |
9.3 |
33.3 |
7.0 |
1.1 |
8.1 |
104.4 |
As you can see, LeBron has been a slightly more efficient shooter, a slightly better rebounder and a significantly more prolific passer. Jordan, on the other hand, took better care of the ball, had greater usage, and had an edge in steals. Still, while LeBron has a slight 7.3 to 7.0 edge in Offensive Box Plus/Minus, it's his decisive 1.9 to 1.1 edge in Defensive BPM which gives him the edge in VORP despite playing about 4,000 fewer minutes than MJ. This is largely the result of LeBron playing for superior defensive teams throughout his career. When Jordan was winning titles in Chicago, they were elite defensively, but that was not always the case earlier (or later) in his career. Another factor, according to Myers, is that "Jordan's offensive stats look to the regression more like a pure offensive player than LeBron, possibly because they are more guard like. And guards usually have a bit less value on the defensive end."
While VORP is a cumulative stat, BPM is a rate stat which serves as the foundation for VORP. LeBron's 9.2 BPM seems to dwarf Jordan's 8.1 BPM. However, Jordan's BPM is weighed down by his geriatric years in Washington. A more fair comparison might be Jordan's 13 seasons in Chicago compared to LeBron's career (he's currently in his 13th season). As you can see, the numbers are more comparable, with LeBron owning a 9.2 to 9.0 edge in BPM and a 104.5 to 99.8 edge in VORP thanks to his 1,175-minute advantage in playing time (remember, Jordan missed the majority of the 1985-86 and 1994-95 seasons):
Player |
G |
MP |
TS% |
TRB% |
AST% |
STL% |
BLK% |
TOV% |
USG% |
OBPM |
DBPM |
BPM |
VORP |
LeBron James |
947 |
37062 |
.581 |
10.8 |
34.4 |
2.3 |
1.6 |
12.5 |
31.7 |
7.3 |
1.9 |
9.2 |
104.5 |
Michael Jordan* |
930 |
35887 |
.580 |
9.4 |
24.9 |
3.3 |
1.5 |
9.3 |
33.5 |
7.7 |
1.3 |
9.0 |
99.8 |
VORP and BPM are not the only advanced metrics we have on the site, however. In the eyes of
Win Shares, LeBron still has a lot of work to do in order to catch His Airness. And Jordan himself is only fourth all-time. MJ is, however,
the all-time leader in Win Shares per 48 minutes (while LeBron is 6th). Here are their career Win Share statistics compared, followed by a comparison of LeBron to Jordan's 13 seasons in Chicago:
Player |
G |
MP |
PER |
OWS |
DWS |
WS |
WS/48 |
LeBron James |
947 |
37062 |
27.6 |
128.6 |
56.6 |
185.2 |
.240 |
Michael Jordan* |
1072 |
41011 |
27.9 |
149.9 |
64.1 |
214.0 |
.250 |
Player |
G |
MP |
PER |
OWS |
DWS |
WS |
WS/48 |
LeBron James |
947 |
37062 |
27.6 |
128.6 |
56.6 |
185.2 |
.240 |
Michael Jordan* |
930 |
35887 |
29.1 |
145.8 |
58.7 |
204.5 |
.274 |
We're agnostics in the greatest of all time arguments, but we wanted to share this information with our users as we noticed that VORP now has a new King.
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14th April 2015
We've made a neat addition to our College Basketball site that we wanted to share with everyone. If you go to our Leaders & Records section, you'll notice that the right column now contains 2 "records" links. These pages contain all-time individual records for NCAA Tournament games and single NCAA Tournaments.
Now you can see that Austin Carr has 3 of the 5 highest scoring games in NCAA Tournament history. And you can even click on the date of the game to check out the box score.
The other option is to look at records for a single tournament run. Glen Rice holds the all-time record for points in a single tournament with 184 in Michigan's run to the 1989 National Championship.
We've added a note to the top of each page to indicate certain limitations of the scope of these statistics. For instance, although the NCAA Tournament has existed since 1939, assists, blocks and steals have only been officially tracked since the mid-1980s.
We hope you all enjoy this new addition.
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29th July 2014
As Derek Jeter continues his climb up baseball's all-time hits list, we have received several inquiries about Honus Wagner's career hit total. We list 3,420, while MLB lists him with 3,430 career hits. While the similarity of the numbers may imply a simple typo, it turns out that the reasons for the one-digit difference are not simple at all.
For an explanation of the history of this deviation, we spoke with Pete Palmer (the source for many of the statistics appearing on this site). Palmer explained that the 1969 Macmillan Baseball Encyclopedia was the genesis of the difference. At the time, official NL statistics only went back to 1903. The encyclopedia created new statistics for years prior to that and the changes were approved by an MLB committee set up to rule on various statistics for inclusion in the encyclopedia. However, the Elias Sports Bureau, which is the official statistician for Major League Baseball, never accepted the committee ruling, which leads to some differing numbers between what you see on Baseball-Reference and what you see in official MLB records. Elias, instead, has always used data from the old Spalding Guides.
Pete Palmer (and by extension Baseball-Reference) has preferred to use the Macmillan data*, because daily figures exist to back the numbers up, which allows for the statistics to be proofed for greater accuracy. Here is a year-by-year look at the difference between our totals and the Spalding totals. These are all from Wagner's pre-1903 seasons (Baseball-Reference total listed first):
- 1897: 81, 83
- 1898: 176, 180
- 1899: 196, 197
- 1900: 201, 201
- 1901: 194, 196
- 1902: 176, 177
Another discrepancy that some of you may notice soon is that Baseball-Reference has Cap Anson with 3,435 career hits, while MLB has him with 3,011. While many discrepancies exist with that data, the bulk of the difference is the fact that we count Anson's 423 hits in the National Association, which we believe was clearly a major league.
TL;DR version: Our hit total for Honus Wagner is not a typo. We recognize it does not align with the official total, but we believe it is the most accurate number.
For further reading on some of the issues with official totals in baseball statistics, please read this excellent 2011 post by Retrosheet's Dave Smith.
*The Macmillan data excluded a few games that were protested and replayed in the 1890s. These statistics were included in the NL stats of the day (save for the wins and losses) and Palmer has added these statistics back into the Macmillan data to reflect this.
Posted in Announcement, Baseball-Reference.com, Data, History, Leaders, Uncategorized | 37 Comments »
17th May 2013
Ever want to know who the active leader is in a given stat? Go to Leaders, find the stat you want, and click the Active link.
Posted in Announcement, Baseball-Reference.com, Features, HowTo, Leaders | Comments Off on Active Leaderboards
5th March 2013
We get asked this question a lot, and unfortunately it's not currently possible to find the answer via the Play Index, so I decided to put up a leaderboard once and for all. The most recent version of the question comes from BBR user Reggie:
I’ve seen references on here to games where two teammates scored 40 or more in the same game. But which teammates combined to score the most points in any game? [...]
One game that I remember very well as a Mavericks fan, which is often overlooked, was the overtime game they won at Chicago on November 13, 1994. That was the game where Jamal Mashburn hit for 50 and Jim Jackson went for 38, the two scoring 88 of the 124 points that night in the four point Mavs victory.
Since we have complete box scores (1985-86), here are the 200 most potent scoring duos in a single NBA game:
Read the rest of this entry
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29th November 2012
Several users have asked about how players qualify for the national, conference, and career leaderboards, so we've added a page to explain the minimum requirements needed to show up on those lists. Currently, they are as follows:
Stat |
Single Season |
Career |
Field Goal Percentage |
5 FG/G and 75% of school games |
400 FG and 4 FG/G |
3-Point Field Goal Percentage |
2.5 3P/G and 75% of school games |
200 3P and 2.0 3P/G |
Free Throw Percentage |
2.5 FT/G and 75% of school games |
300 FT and 2.5 FT/G |
Minutes Played Per Game |
75% of school games |
50 G |
Points Per Game |
75% of school games |
1400 PTS |
Total Rebounds Per Game |
75% of school games |
800 TRB |
Assists Per Game |
75% of school games |
550 AST |
Steals Per Game |
75% of school games |
225 STL |
Blocks Per Game |
75% of school games |
225 BLK |
Player Efficiency Rating |
15 MP/G and 75% of school games |
50 G |
Effective Field Goal Percentage |
5 FG/G and 75% of school games |
400 FG and 4 FG/G |
True Shooting Percentage |
10 PTS/G and 75% of school games |
1400 PTS |
Offensive Rebound Percentage |
15 MP/G and 75% of school games |
50 G |
Defensive Rebound Percentage |
15 MP/G and 75% of school games |
50 G |
Total Rebound Percentage |
15 MP/G and 75% of school games |
50 G |
Assist Percentage |
15 MP/G and 75% of school games |
50 G |
Steal Percentage |
15 MP/G and 75% of school games |
50 G |
Block Percentage |
15 MP/G and 75% of school games |
50 G |
Turnover Percentage |
15 MP/G and 75% of school games |
50 G |
Usage Percentage |
15 MP/G and 75% of school games |
50 G |
Points Produced Per Game |
75% of school games |
1400 PProd |
Offensive Rating |
10 PProd/G and 75% of school games |
1400 PProd |
Defensive Rating |
15 MP/G and 75% of school games |
50 G |
Posted in Announcement, Basketball-Reference.com, CBB at Sports Reference, General, Leaders | 4 Comments »
18th October 2012
Did you know that B-R has all-time leaderboards for the playoffs? We currently have:
- Batting and Pitching Leaders for the World Series (Career and Single-Series)
- Batting and Pitching Leaders for the League Championship Series (Career and Single-Series)
- Batting and Pitching Leaders for the Division Series (Career and Single-Series)
- Batting and Pitching Leaders for the entire Playoffs (Career and Single-Year)
Posted in Announcement, Baseball-Reference.com, Leaders, Playoffs | 8 Comments »
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